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so

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hello citizens and welcome to the rogue

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planet show i'm maureen elsberry

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and i'm jason mcclellan it's october

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it's halloween season

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so today we're hanging out with our

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friend the journalist tv host and

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paranormal pop culture expert

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aaron thank you so much for coming on

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the show with us today

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it is wonderful to see you my friend

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have you been

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i've been great and thanks so much for

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inviting me it's you know this is

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during these weird times that we've been

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living in in 2020

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i love doing these kinds of talks with

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friends because it's

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i'm not seeing anyone in person so this

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is this is how i have my human

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connection

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so thanks for inviting me on yeah i

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think we're all missing that uh

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that con con life that we all are used

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i know it's crazy i haven't even been on

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it i haven't been on an airplane since

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february which you know was a lifetime

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in in sort of our our world of

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bouncing all over the place exactly i

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mean i can't even imagine what that's

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like for you i mean i

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we we both all all three of us travel

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quite a lot

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but your life is constant travel i mean

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i love following you on social media

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because

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you are mr travel um and certainly with

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with cons and everything that you do

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you're always in a different place

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so having not traveled since february

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you've got to feel like you're in the

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twilight zone or something

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yeah i really have so for

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anyone out there that doesn't know i'm

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based in new york city most

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times and obviously new york got hit

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had a

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very strict lockdown which i i think was

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the right

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call however for a city that

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is built around culture and going out

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and attending events and everything

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it suddenly became very eerie being

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inside of a rather small apartment

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comparatively

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and without having real access to the

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the great outdoors

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so it was difficult and then over the

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what i started doing is going on

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i would say responsible road trips to

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friends homes that

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were sort of removed from populated

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areas and where i could get tested

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get a clean test and then go social

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distance hang out

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with them that's what i started doing

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and now where i'm at

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i'm at right this moment is i accepted

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artist residency down in key west at the

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studios of key west

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and the nice folks here brought me down

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research the paranormal and tell some

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stories

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and literally living for a

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temporary amount of time across the

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street from the robert the doll house

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so not not doll house but the house

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where robert the doll existed and if you

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don't know that story it's

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it's a a great one he's a very famous

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infamous haunted doll

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and you're wearing the perfect shirt for

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well you know maureen this is pretty

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much the perfect shirt for me

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all the time because i am always wearing

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tiki shirts but

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it's also i i it is very much my style

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i'm playing to the crowd here because

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a cryptid type shirt we got like the

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critters

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my shirt

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and then the hat itself is a mothman hat

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so i'm i'm definitely kind of applying

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to our

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our fellow weirdos and paranormal folks

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that's awesome well i want to talk more

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the focus of this episode is on

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halloween movies

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because we are in october we are in the

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heart of halloween season

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and i know the three of us love

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halloween

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but we love horror in general so you

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halloween october in general is just a

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hyper focus on horror movies and so

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the halloween season erin i've got to

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is there one movie that is your absolute

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favorite movie to watch during this

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it's such a hard question and and you're

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i love halloween but also i live sort of

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that spooky life all year long

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with the job and i love horror 365.

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halloween is also a time for me

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a it's a summer movie you know but it's

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a good halloweeny movie but i i

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i even with that once i once i got out

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shining

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ghostbusters we'll start with that

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all right maureen you jump in what is

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your absolute favorite movie to watch

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during the halloween season

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uh as i mentioned i'm uh the 80s streak

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80s i've got to go with poltergeist in

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the shining probably the shining is

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my number one but culture guys probably

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that's very cool i just uh watched both

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um like you said aaron it's a year-round

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for halloween night is the 1978 classic

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john carpenter's halloween because

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it's hard to get anything more fitting

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you know simplistic sinister music and a

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it's a ritual i have to do that every

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i watched it this weekend actually and

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at all i mean i think i was scared by it

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when i was a little kid and

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i watched it this time and i just

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in high school that was a horror film

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the stalking scenes in the original uh

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of this terrible movie i made in high

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just the standing across awkwardly

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staring at each other but uh

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a master of horror and uh

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new stuff three from hell and and

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other movies which i actually haven't

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it but again i haven't seen that since

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that yeah thank you that i interviewed

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a newspaper i was working for at the

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time and i've interviewed him

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since for various other projects

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fascinating guy

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really liked talking to him i think the

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2007 halloween was good i think

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the sequel that he did was less

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impactful for me

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the really the genius and even the

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of the originals and it's not just

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that zombie wasn't able to entirely

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capture i also just want to attack on

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there maureen as far as the shining

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good halloween movie as that is i think

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now become maybe more of my winter

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movie because it really does capture

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stuck in the cold so

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that makes sense i was just trying to

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think of of movies that still

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uh impact me in a way that kind of is

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suspenseful in in the

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psychological um horror kind of aspect

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and i think you know i'm sure you have

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also been to the stanley

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uh jason and i went just a couple years

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ago as well

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and um and i'm very close to

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uh the mount hood uh timberline lodge

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which is actually

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the outside or the wait is it the

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outside no the ins

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the outside right forgive me yeah i

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think it's the outside yeah

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outside the outside and then the inside

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is

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the yeah the exterior and then uh

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the other shots are based on the stanley

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and that's where the

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the king wrote would base the

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original book off of um

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and and that's a great one because

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there's a lot of

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horror that also went into the actual

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filming of the movie

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i mean every once in a while you'll see

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shelley duvall uh

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come out and talk about how tortured

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stanley kubrick made her

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feel on the set which is awful and

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and stephen king doesn't like the movie

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uh rendition apparently

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but there's still something about it

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where it's you know

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it's got the the soundtrack and the just

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endless hallways and that feeling of

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utter isolation and that's partly

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because again the snowed in aspect so i

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get the winter

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vibe off of that but uh

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yeah i just still tear

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the bathtub scene is still one of the

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most terrifying

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things in the world to me much more than

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that

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it really it really speaks to the genius

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of certain movies for me

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that so there's the movies that i've

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seen a million times

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and and i love them and even if they

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maybe not

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don't scare me in the same way that they

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did when i was a kid

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there are certain scenes that still get

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me

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and it does speak to sort of the genius

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of a certain movie that even when you

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know it's about to happen even if you've

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seen it a million times

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it still evokes that

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response so the bathtub scene is one

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another

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one for me is a summer horror movie jaws

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but where richard dreyfuss is diving in

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the water and he finds ben

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gardner's boat and then the face comes

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out of the hole of the

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the boat and it's the dangling eyeball

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and everything

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i i watch jaws a couple times a year

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and that scene always gets me i always

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tense up a little bit right before

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that seems so i i totally feel you with

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the bathtub moment

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and it just it's the things that i love

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about horror

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quite honestly do you close your eyes

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when that comes up sometimes

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no i no because i'm sure for

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many years i did but it's more like i

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like

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that thrill and isn't that really what

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the the purpose of scary movies and the

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and the thing that we're getting out of

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it the cathartic response of like it's a

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safe way to experience

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a fear and a safe way to be startled

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because it's not an actual threat

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against us as a human it's like we're

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kind of

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able to release that that fear response

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so

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no i i always i always watch and keep my

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eyes

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open even though it does make me tense

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up

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aaron as a

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do you have are you subscribed to

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shutter

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turned me

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it with their streaming service

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i think i did like a trial period and

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then once that was over i was kind of

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like okay that was fun

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but as i saw their library grow and grow

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i did end up subscribing to it and if

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if i may humble brag a little bit it's

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really saying something because

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i'm fortunate that through my job i get

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a lot of screeners sent to me and

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screeners from shutter

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so they're doing a good job when i'm

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still paying for it even though i'm

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getting some free movies

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separately for for the job that's

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awesome

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yeah um i just recently got shutter and

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like you i mean i looked into it a while

402
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ago when i first heard about it and

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you know the library wasn't what it is

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today and it continues to grow

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and i mean they're they're creating a

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lot of their own original content which

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is really cool i mean from movies to

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series

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um but some of my favorite things to

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watch

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recently on this platform have been the

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documentaries

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i mean they're in search of darkness

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documentary about 80s horror

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is amazing it's hours and hours and

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hours

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of content about all of these you know

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classic horror movies that we love

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um and then the friday the 13th

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documentary they have

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i'm i'm still going through that one but

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i love it it's crystal lake memories

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and it goes through movie by movie the

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entire history

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of the friday the 13th series so i mean

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yeah and i would recommend there's

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there's one i've been touting a lot and

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certainly a lot of people have been

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talking about it so it's not my

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it's not only my discovery the movie

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hosts

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which debuted on shutter and it's

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a it was a movie made entirely

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in quarantine and it is

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about a zoom call seance

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during during this this lockdown period

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and a seance that goes wrong as you can

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expect uh but yeah it was shot entirely

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during

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lockdown and it's very much of the

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moment

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but it also kind of taps into

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i don't know i would actually say that i

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think it might have

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a longer legacy of along the lines of

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potentially

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a blair witch project or paranormal

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activity as far as

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sort of found footage e

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esque type of horror but something that

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just kind of taps into

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the the spirit of the moment the

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zeitgeist

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well i'm gonna have to watch that now

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because i had someone randomly on

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twitter suggest it to me

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and when i saw zoom call i was like oh

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maybe it's one of these

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you know there's so many of those weird

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uh pre-pandemic

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uh movies that came out based on social

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media and all this stuff and i was like

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well maybe

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that sounds kind of lame but your

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recommendation

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now i will actually watch it because i

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know at your time you know what you're

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talking about um

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another another great uh documentary

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series since you're mentioning them on

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shutter jason

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is the uh cursed films um

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i watch that and it's very interesting

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and a lot of it's history you know i've

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myself researched over the years for

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various articles but uh

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covering the alleged curses that have

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happened on the sets of horror movies

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like the exorcist and poltergeist

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and uh and you'll see in almost every

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single one the actors are like you guys

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are full of [\h__\h]

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that this bs that you would suggest that

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this film was cursed

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uh but but it is interesting because you

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talk about

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uh if we get into poultry guys i mean

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this movie was based on some

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real life events you have there was a

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man in new york that i know that the

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the house and idea of being haunted was

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based off of

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but then the the cemetery the idea that

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um

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they dug up or graves but left the

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bodies

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is a cheeseman's tape or a cheeseman

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park now in colorado they did that where

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you have this situation they moved

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headstones and left all the bodies and

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bodies are coming up through the ground

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and you have the

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the skeletons that come up through the

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ground that the house is built on

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a total spoiler alert if nobody's seen

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that movie but uh

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it with the times but uh i find it

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really interesting

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the the intersecting real life with

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with horror uh makes it much

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creepier when you find out the backstory

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behind all these things

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yeah and i would say with that one i i

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also enjoyed

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that i think it was only six episodes of

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cursed films

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and they did exorcist poltergeist omen

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the

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i've like you you guys i've researched a

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lot of these movies and i've even

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researched movie curses and i've

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interviewed people that were at times

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connected to these films

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and the director the filmmaker of this

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series this documentary series really

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was able to gain access

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unlike anything i had seen for some of

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these films now

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some of the older films people have

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since passed away

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unfortunately but with the poltergeist

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episode in particular

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they they really

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do a great job of

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talking about some of the weird elements

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to this but also putting things into

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perspective that

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i don't think anyone's really really

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gone into before and

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i i don't think it's a spoiler i'll i'll

541
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talk a little bit about it but

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the the the curse of the movie

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supposedly

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is that they used real skeletons

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in a pivotal scene in the movie and that

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that supposedly cursed the actors

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of the film and there were two notable

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tragic deaths after the fact there was

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also a lot of

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a handful of deaths that were fairly

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explainable due to

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health and poor thing poor poor

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circumstances like that

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but the death of heather o'rourke and

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then i believe

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uh was it dominic it's done

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i i forget yes done i want to say

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yeah yeah i think so but anyhow

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the the interview the special effects uh

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master on the film and it's a really

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gut-wrenching

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interview where he points out that

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yeah we did use real skeletons but

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so did the original frankenstein movie

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and so did

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all these horror movies and and we kind

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of got this bad

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rap for this but this was sort of the

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practice of the

570
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:07,600
industry it's not like we were out there

571
00:22:12,549 --> 00:22:08,559
digging up

572
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:12,559
bodies or freshly buried cadavers

573
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:14,720
this we're not grave robbers this this

574
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:16,799
was acquired legally this is

575
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:19,039
sort of the deal this is what happened

576
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:19,840
and

577
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:22,400
in a very powerful moment he even says

578
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:22,880
like

579
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,440
i will not be connected to the death of

580
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:27,200
a little girl in the murder of

581
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:30,240
of this young woman because of practices

582
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:30,640
that

583
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,520
everyone in the industry did and it's

584
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:35,520
it's convincing it's powerful because

585
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:38,480
i myself have given presentation on

586
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:40,000
presentations on cursed

587
00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:43,440
movies and i've used that tidbit

588
00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:46,880
about the skeletons so

589
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,440
this interview this this kind of

590
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,120
revelation

591
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,679
really made me it's making me retire

592
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:55,200
that movie and retire

593
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:59,840
that that kind of accusation in a way

594
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:02,240
and um yes the cursed films i think did

595
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:03,919
a really good job but

596
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,760
i do have opinions about some of those

597
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:07,360
other movies where maybe the movies

598
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:08,000
weren't cursed

599
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:10,880
but but some of the people behind them

600
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:11,200
were

601
00:23:16,950 --> 00:23:14,400
at least woefully negligent in their

602
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:16,960
in their activities definitely talking

603
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:19,440
about the twilight zone movie there

604
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:22,960
uh probably i i would

605
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:25,120
say that yes that's most certainly

606
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:26,000
counts you know

607
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:32,470
very yeah that one was a really hard one

608
00:23:35,909 --> 00:23:34,080
to watch so i would say

609
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:35,919
definitely that cursed films it came out

610
00:23:41,110 --> 00:23:37,840
in spring but it's still a good

611
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:41,120
documentary series to check out i i i

612
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:42,799
think this just ties into like the you

613
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:44,880
know the power of the genre as well like

614
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:47,919
when and not only horror but

615
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,840
when you love these movies so much

616
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:51,840
seeing the backstories and behind the

617
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:52,559
scenes

618
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:55,760
it's even for films that are 40 years or

619
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,600
older

620
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,600
it's really cool to kind of get that

621
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:01,679
fresh perspective on these movies

622
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:05,039
yeah yeah i love it so you know for

623
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:05,840
anybody who

624
00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,559
who is a fan of this genre i i can't

625
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:09,919
recommend shutter

626
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:12,400
highly enough um it's a new discovery

627
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:13,679
for me certainly a new

628
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:16,159
new subscription for me but i've been

629
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:17,760
going through it every night and it's

630
00:24:21,909 --> 00:24:18,960
just so much fun

631
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:21,919
oh aaron i mean horror and and the

632
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,400
paranormal is a big part of this show

633
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:27,120
but uh you know so we'll certainly have

634
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:28,960
to have you back on many times to talk

635
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:29,440
about

636
00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:31,440
many other things related to all of this

637
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,480
wonderful

638
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:35,120
uh magic that we love but uh let's talk

639
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:36,640
a little more about what you've been up

640
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:37,520
to lately

641
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,520
and uh you know bringing back your your

642
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:41,600
shirt into the topic of conversation

643
00:24:47,269 --> 00:24:44,799
um tiki let's talk about cheeky first i

644
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:47,279
you recently uh published news about

645
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,799
this new patreon campaign that you

646
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:49,679
launched so

647
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:52,720
tell us what that's about yeah well and

648
00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,799
thank you for bringing it up i

649
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:56,640
you know really for years i've been a

650
00:25:01,990 --> 00:24:58,240
i've been a journalist

651
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:02,000
for a long time now and uh sometimes

652
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:03,840
longer than i would like to admit

653
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:06,400
and throughout the course of my career i

654
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,440
have done

655
00:25:11,909 --> 00:25:09,760
hard news a lot of entertainment news

656
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,919
talked a lot about the paranormal

657
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:14,159
and i've been fortunate to travel around

658
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:15,360
a lot and

659
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:18,240
and throughout my travels have gained an

660
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:19,760
appreciation

661
00:25:23,990 --> 00:25:22,400
for and an education about tiki culture

662
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,000
and tiki cocktails

663
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:26,960
lots of tiki cocktails and you know i

664
00:25:33,029 --> 00:25:31,669
it sometimes seems like people want you

665
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:33,039
to fit

666
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,400
into a certain category in your career

667
00:25:41,029 --> 00:25:39,360
and at times i've tried to do that you

668
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:41,039
know maybe i'm only talking about

669
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:42,240
science fiction over here

670
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,880
okay maybe i'm only talking about horror

671
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,640
or paranormal over there

672
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:49,200
and i just kind of reached a point where

673
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:50,480
i'm like

674
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:53,600
i have these loves that in my mind

675
00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:58,320
are very connected so i decided to

676
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,679
launch my own content creation platform

677
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:02,799
through patreon

678
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:06,400
called geeky creepy tiki travels which

679
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:07,919
is a mouthful and i probably should have

680
00:26:11,430 --> 00:26:09,520
thought about that before i launched it

681
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:11,440
but geeky creepy tiki travels

682
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:14,960
is about combining my nerdy side

683
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:18,640
of comic books and science fiction

684
00:26:22,630 --> 00:26:21,279
and horror along with the creepy element

685
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,640
of the paranormal

686
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:25,679
including ghosts and cryptozoology and

687
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,200
ufology

688
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:29,679
and the tiki the the cocktails the

689
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:30,640
drinks the

690
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:34,320
the color and and then traveling which i

691
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:35,919
haven't traveled a lot lately

692
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:39,200
but the idea of travel and combining

693
00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:42,000
all of those things together so and yeah

694
00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:43,600
i mean this shirt does really sort of

695
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:44,960
sum it up because

696
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:48,320
it's from the 80s movie critters horror

697
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,120
movie

698
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,559
it's got a lot of color to it and

699
00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:54,880
you know it just kind of combines all of

700
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:56,240
those nerdy things

701
00:27:00,630 --> 00:26:59,600
for me so with this geeky creepy tiki

702
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:00,640
travels

703
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:03,279
i'm doing live streams and doing

704
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:05,760
interviews with people and various

705
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,039
fields and i'm going to be posting

706
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:10,880
articles i'm going to be

707
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:13,679
just creating a lot of content and so

708
00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:15,440
far i've been really fortunate about the

709
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,399
the early adopters the the spooky nerds

710
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:20,000
as i call them that have joined

711
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:23,520
me on this this little endeavor so we're

712
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:25,440
only like a week into this and

713
00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:28,559
people seem to be responding

714
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,320
it's awesome and and you know what is

715
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,320
total i just thought about this when you

716
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,960
when you said the combo of horror and

717
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:36,080
ufology

718
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,120
is critters is critters as well

719
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,240
as uh gremlins

720
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:45,039
is based the idea from it was based off

721
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:46,640
a real-life ufo sighting

722
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,840
the kelly hopkinsville case uh yeah so

723
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,760
that's a little plane right there but

724
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,440
but yeah i mean all those things make

725
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,120
total sense and

726
00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,159
uh i'm curious because i have

727
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:00,320
i watched one of your youtube videos you

728
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:01,679
put out in like

729
00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,960
the heart of of corn like the bad

730
00:28:09,190 --> 00:28:06,799
lockdown quarantine time

731
00:28:10,549 --> 00:28:09,200
uh where you were making cocktails in

732
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:10,559
your kitchen

733
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:13,760
um and i am not i

734
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:17,039
love the look and uh the idea of tiki

735
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:17,840
cocktails

736
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:21,279
but i'm not really a sweet person so

737
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:24,559
what would you be your suggestion for me

738
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,760
for like a less sweet tiki cocktail

739
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,440
well thank you for watching that and

740
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,200
yeah let me say that like during the

741
00:28:37,029 --> 00:28:35,520
during the height of lockdown again

742
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:37,039
doing these cocktails and doing the live

743
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,640
streams was a way of me

744
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:40,640
staying sane because i was cut off from

745
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:42,880
the world so i started doing those

746
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:45,279
and then down the road i'm like all

747
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,080
right i should just

748
00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:47,840
make a patreon out of this so i can

749
00:28:53,269 --> 00:28:49,600
actually you know

750
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:53,279
i can help fund my tiki cocktail making

751
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:56,720
but i would say for you a zombie

752
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:59,600
is a good go-to it is a potent drink but

753
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,159
it's not

754
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:03,039
overly sweet there is a tartness to it

755
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:04,880
and there's a lot of rum to it

756
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:07,679
but it's not an overly sweet drink and

757
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,960
it's certainly one of my favorites

758
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,080
because

759
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,320
as much as i like things like a

760
00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:13,679
painkiller

761
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:15,679
which is definitely a very sweet

762
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:16,960
cocktail

763
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,440
it's not something that i'm going to a

764
00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:21,440
lot so i would say a zombie and then a

765
00:29:25,350 --> 00:29:23,360
classic like a mai tai

766
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:25,360
has a sweetness to it but when it's done

767
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:26,480
right it's not

768
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:30,080
an overly overpoweringly sweet

769
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,960
uh cocktail and again that also depends

770
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:33,840
on

771
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,399
who's making it where you're ordering it

772
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:38,240
and if they know what they're doing

773
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:39,520
because

774
00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:42,720
like every great cocktail there's gonna

775
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,840
be

776
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:45,840
people and restaurants out there that

777
00:29:49,110 --> 00:29:47,919
find a way to screw it up even if it's a

778
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:49,120
very simple

779
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:52,799
recipe so yeah well i am i am

780
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:55,840
a recent as of you know the last

781
00:30:02,549 --> 00:29:59,039
five or so years um fan

782
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:02,559
and convert to tiki bars and i will say

783
00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:03,440
that if you go

784
00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:06,320
to a legitimate tiki bar i have

785
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:07,600
tremendous respect

786
00:30:10,950 --> 00:30:10,000
for the bartenders at these places

787
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:10,960
because

788
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:14,480
tiki recipes have like you know 10 15

789
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,880
ingredients and you know some of these

790
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:18,640
places have massive menus and these

791
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,600
bartenders

792
00:30:22,950 --> 00:30:21,600
know it all like they know how to make

793
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:22,960
these things just

794
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:26,320
from off the top of their heads and

795
00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:28,799
one thing that was good for me going

796
00:30:33,029 --> 00:30:31,120
into a tiki bar for the first time

797
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:33,039
because i also am not a sweet drink

798
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:34,880
person

799
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:37,520
the bartenders are good enough where

800
00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:38,320
they would

801
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,960
ask if i was looking for something that

802
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,000
was

803
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:45,600
um well they'd ask what i wanted or what

804
00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:47,360
i liked first of all and explaining that

805
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:48,080
really helped

806
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:51,200
but also wanting a a fruit forward drink

807
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,039
or an alcohol forward drink

808
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:55,440
really helps too in determining what's

809
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,480
going to be good for you

810
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,919
and there are all sorts of cool tiki

811
00:31:00,470 --> 00:31:00,159
drinks with uh like mezcal and things

812
00:31:02,789 --> 00:31:00,480
that are

813
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:02,799
more smoky um and those are more of the

814
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:04,080
drinks that i like but

815
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:05,919
uh erin when you come to phoenix we have

816
00:31:10,710 --> 00:31:07,919
to go to the undertow the undertow

817
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:10,720
is is one of my absolute favorite tiki

818
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:11,600
bars

819
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:14,000
um and it's right here in my hometown so

820
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:16,480
it is it is amazing it's a

821
00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:18,559
a themed bar i mean tiki bars are themed

822
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,840
bars but this is like an immersive

823
00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:20,799
experience

824
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:22,720
and they're moving to a new location but

825
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,240
uh their existing location

826
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,399
it used to be like a quickie lube you

827
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:28,080
know it's underground like in one of the

828
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:29,679
bays where people would be under your

829
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:30,000
car

830
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:32,080
like changing your oil so it's you go

831
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,760
into this this coffee shop and there's

832
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:35,200
this secret entrance and you go down the

833
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,000
stairs

834
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:38,159
and you emerge into the tiki bar into

835
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,360
the undertow

836
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:41,440
and it's dark there are only 30 seats

837
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:43,120
down there you have to make reservations

838
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:44,399
and you're only allowed to be there for

839
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,240
90 minutes and they kick you out

840
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,880
but you go down there and it's like

841
00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:50,960
you're on an old spice trading ship

842
00:31:54,710 --> 00:31:52,960
it's all wood everywhere they've got

843
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:54,720
portholes in the wall

844
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,399
with custom designed video

845
00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,399
sequences so it's like you're out on the

846
00:32:03,669 --> 00:32:02,399
open sea and you watch yourself as

847
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,679
you're out on the sea

848
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,279
and different scenes happen you get in

849
00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:06,960
cannonball fights with other people

850
00:32:09,990 --> 00:32:08,080
trying to you know

851
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,000
pirates trying to steal your stuff you

852
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:12,159
come into dock and

853
00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:13,840
i think the latest one you go by and you

854
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,679
see a volcano erupting

855
00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:17,519
and you see glaciers and all sorts of

856
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:19,279
cool stuff and the lights flicker and

857
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,399
there's thunder and

858
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:22,399
it's just a total immersive experience

859
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,000
it's really cool i've heard of the

860
00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:26,080
undertow but i've not been there but

861
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,240
i think that really captures sort of the

862
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:30,080
the spirit of tiki and

863
00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:33,360
it's a it's a cocktail culture that

864
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,720
has existed since i think the almost

865
00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:38,720
like the year after prohibition

866
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:41,679
lifted tiki cocktails started to emerge

867
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:42,080
and they

868
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:45,679
really dominated or dominated cocktail

869
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:46,640
culture

870
00:32:51,029 --> 00:32:49,760
until the 70s and then they uh tiki

871
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:51,039
drinks and tiki bars

872
00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:52,880
started to fade away a little bit as

873
00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:55,039
disco culture sort of emerged

874
00:33:02,310 --> 00:32:59,519
but after like in the i think the

875
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:02,320
early to mid 2000s and then certainly

876
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:02,960
from

877
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:06,480
2010 on there has been an explosive

878
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:08,000
resurgence

879
00:33:11,509 --> 00:33:10,480
of the tiki culture but i love it

880
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,519
because

881
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:14,399
it's not pretentious it's it's

882
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:15,600
accessible

883
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,640
but it's also i don't know i think it's

884
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:20,320
fun you go into a tiki bar and you see

885
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,039
the colors

886
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:23,760
and you and you have to be willing to

887
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:26,080
embrace it and have fun with it but

888
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:29,600
the drinks are no joke they are crafted

889
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,120
cocktails they are they take skill

890
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,240
to make these drinks and in the

891
00:33:40,630 --> 00:33:39,120
especially for people that really know

892
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:40,640
tiki drinks and really new tiki

893
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:41,360
cocktails

894
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:44,720
there is precision to the drinks

895
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,679
and the amounts used in each drink of

896
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:48,960
course you can play with it and you can

897
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:49,919
break the rules

898
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:52,320
but to really get it down requires a

899
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:53,760
certain amount of precision so i

900
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:54,960
appreciate the history

901
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:57,840
i appreciate the lack of pretension and

902
00:34:03,110 --> 00:33:59,840
i appreciate the escapism of it

903
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:03,120
as well of feeling like you're on a ship

904
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:05,600
so you know even underneath a uh an old

905
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:08,159
jiffy lube

906
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,919
yeah you try not to think about that but

907
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:11,919
they make it easy i mean you you

908
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:14,320
you are totally on a spice trading ship

909
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:20,639
when you are down there so it's awesome

910
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:23,119
aaron before we let you go i will ask

911
00:34:31,750 --> 00:34:24,159
you

912
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:31,760
favorite tiki bar in the world

913
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:35,040
oh man that's that's a tough one okay

914
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:38,960
uh oh uh that is a tough one

915
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:41,839
i will say i have such a short-term

916
00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:43,599
memory sometimes that like i always pick

917
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:44,720
the thing that i went to

918
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:48,000
last yeah but i will say this one

919
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:51,119
is legit and it is

920
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,720
the maikai lounge in fort lauderdale

921
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:56,320
florida now i actually was

922
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,440
just recently there but i've been there

923
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:00,880
multiple times

924
00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:04,079
previous to that and it was it's one of

925
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:04,640
the

926
00:35:11,430 --> 00:35:10,800
aren't really that many left and this

927
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:11,440
one

928
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,800
is i i think it goes back to early 50s i

929
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:18,880
think is when this was built

930
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:22,320
and when i say tiki palace this thing is

931
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:24,560
massive you walk in and you might as

932
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:27,680
well be on a polynesian island they do

933
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:30,480
not just the drinks but pride themselves

934
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:31,280
on

935
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:34,480
the food the menu they have a whole

936
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,480
polynesian dinner show

937
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:38,480
which they do have right now they

938
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,079
recently reopened and

939
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:42,320
the dancers and performers are wearing

940
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:43,359
masks

941
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:46,000
but the bar itself i think it's called

942
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,440
the molokai bar

943
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,400
is separate from the overall palace and

944
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:52,400
that also looks like

945
00:35:56,829 --> 00:35:55,599
the bow of a of a sunken ship so it

946
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:56,839
feels like you're under

947
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,000
water when you're in there and so

948
00:36:03,109 --> 00:36:02,640
it's just not only are the drinks still

949
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:03,119
great

950
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:06,800
food is still solid

951
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:09,760
but the overall aesthetic is powerful

952
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:10,160
but

953
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:13,599
connects you back to this bygone time

954
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:14,400
this height

955
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,640
of tiki and it's just such a

956
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:20,240
it's such an experience i highly

957
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:21,920
recommend it to anyone

958
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:23,119
that can get out there but the great

959
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,280
part is is that there this

960
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:27,119
tiki culture is so widespread right now

961
00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:29,520
that probably wherever you are there is

962
00:37:17,349 --> 00:36:30,160
a

963
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:17,359
the golden tiki

964
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:21,040
um you you gave me the thumbs up so i

965
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:22,320
went and checked it out i wasn't sure

966
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:23,200
what to expect

967
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:26,000
but uh i was i was pleasantly surprised

968
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:26,400
i

969
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,480
bars out there that

970
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:37,599
are maybe not making the best cocktails

971
00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,079
or not at the top of their game

972
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,839
it's still a fun experience and and i

973
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:43,520
still appreciate going

974
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:46,960
to those so i you know sort of like sign

975
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:49,280
me up for any kind of attempt at it

976
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:51,680
sometimes yeah maybe sometimes it's not

977
00:37:57,030 --> 00:37:55,200
the best experience but i still

978
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:57,040
i want to try it i want to still get out

979
00:38:01,109 --> 00:37:58,320
there it's sort of like pizza

980
00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:01,119
even bad pizza can be really good pizza

981
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:02,000
so

982
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:07,910
yeah that's true well yeah after a

983
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:10,320
couple tiki drinks yeah

984
00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:13,200
it's real good well once we can travel

985
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,240
again aaron

986
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:16,320
once once the world gets back to

987
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:18,400
somewhat normal and we can travel

988
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,240
we all need to get together and we

989
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:22,880
should go get our tiki on

990
00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,760
i would love it it's been way too long

991
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:27,520
since i've hung out with you guys

992
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:30,160
in person i think maureen you're i saw

993
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,960
you

994
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,800
where were we we were somewhere where we

995
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:34,640
i think just saw each other in passing

996
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,000
i forget where it was like unless i'm in

997
00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,520
maybe i'm imagining this whole thing

998
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:41,440
maybe i've not seen you guys in so long

999
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:41,920
that i'm

1000
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:45,359
crafting scenarios in my head but

1001
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,160
well pre yeah pre pandemic was a

1002
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:50,000
lifetime ago so

1003
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,000
i know that's true yeah so but either

1004
00:38:56,710 --> 00:38:54,480
way let's make it happen

1005
00:38:58,829 --> 00:38:56,720
i don't know or or maybe i'm just astral

1006
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:58,839
projecting i don't know

1007
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:01,520
but whatever the case let's do it for

1008
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:03,599
real sometime soon

1009
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,589
it was awesome catching up with aaron

1010
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,119
and talking about our favorite halloween

1011
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:15,040
movies but we'd love to hear what movie

1012
00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:16,320
is your favorite to watch

1013
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:18,560
during the halloween season post it in

1014
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:20,000
the comments below so we can check it

1015
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:21,359
out

1016
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:25,520
getting strange i'm maureen elsberry

1017
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:27,119
and i'm jason mcclellan farewell